My Univerity age son and his girlfriend alternate paying and split costs. She insists!!!!! They are both impovrished students (lol) and are careful with their money...nothing like working for it yourself to make it precious.
When my daughter goes places with her JW boyfriend, ( the very, very occasional movie) she pays for herself, and they tend to take turns buying pop or a smoothie. He was very surprised, as all the JW girls would expect the guy to pay for everything.
De...you are better off without him...but I know how hard it is...I see it at home.
i don't know who authored this, but it pretty well describes my experience of being a parent, right down to the phone call asking where i have been.. lew w. .
passing the torch.
is there a magic cutoff period when offspring become accountable for their own actions?
email received from lawrence hughes, the father of the girl who is desparately ill from lukemia and has been involved in the recent court case with the watchtower...
simon ,.
my daughters health has improved because of the last chemo treatments.
It is my understanding that the provincial health care system will only pay for out of province treatment if the clinical trials show it to be effective. In other words, they aren't going to pay for unproven or unsafe therapy. As far as cancer treatment goes, much of it is pretty experimental, and they have paid for it if the research makes sense and looks promising. Also, if it is available here in Alberta, they won't pay for you to go elsewhere. We do have excellent facilities for treatment of cancer in Calgary and Edmonton..
BG explained it very well. Unfortunately, most of the herbal therapies haven't performed well in careful double blind clinical trials.
Once traditional therapy has nothing left to offer, patients or their parents often look to alternative medicine for that last hope. I don't blame them, I would try anything to save the life of my children.
Edited by - concerned mama on 16 July 2002 21:13:13
i've done a quick version to watch in windows media player format .... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/media.asp.
select the bbc programme from the drop-down list (it's in two parts).. the first programme starts at about 2 minutes (you get to see our weather report first) and has a good intro by the newsreader.. let me know if you have any problems ... i'll probably put a better quality version up when i have more time.
Thank you, Simon, for making it possible for us to see this.
Once again, I am so horrified by the Watchtower policies. The degree of control they have over their members is totally frightening. The people who stepped forward have incredible courage.
concerned mama
Edited by - concerned mama on 15 July 2002 11:13:37
hi, i'm 17 and i've just recently become a member of this website and i want you to know what has happened to me over the past months.back in sep/oct 2001 i started chatting to a 20 year old bloke via the internet and we developed a great friendship over the net.we would talk online for ages,text and phone each other loads,we sent each other photos of ourselves and he would often put his webcam on for me to see.before i knew it he played a great part in my everyday life...and i spent so much time chatting to him that my college work suffered a lot & i wasn't doing my coursework (i eventually got told to leave as i hadn't done loads of the assignments and stuff & had fallen behind).
after about 6 months we arranged to meet up (i made sure my parents were at home coz i know it's dodgy to meet people from the internet).anyway,he came round my house one evening in march and we got along soo well...he lives quite locally too which was good.our friendship then grew into a relationship and we started dating and going out together,i was sooo happy and i fell for him in a massive way & he said he felt the same way too.to me,he was a girls dream come true...he was kind,caring,fit,good-looking & gentle and i loved him to bits!,i still do,and i thought we'd be together forever.
something that i did find a bit strange though was i hadn't met his family yet or heard my boyfriend talk much about them.i would question him about his family but he seemed to get a bit funny about it and when i mentioned about meeting his family he said something along the lines of ''they're a bit strange,you might not like them'' (or something like that anyway).that got me thinking and i though prehaps they lived in a run-down place or something,or they wern't very nice people and i thought my b/f could be ashamed to let me meet them.i thought to myself to give him time & he'll see that i'm an understanding & nice person and hoped that he would soon come out and tell me what the problem was (thinking it was about what i've just mentioned).
My daughter has had a JW boyfriend for 2 years now and I have to tell you that what these people say is true. It is a no win situation. He may be a marvelous person and a great boyfriend, but you have no successful future together. The best thing to do is move on. The longer you leave it, the messier it gets.
the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.
the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.
What I really wonder is, how many leave COMPLETELY and join the outside world? LIke, enjoy birthdays and put the big tree and lights up at Christmas, and would never consider refusing blood if was absolutely neccessary medically. It seems like so many X JWs have so many issues (especially with family still in) and have so many wounds, that they live in a limbo, out but not really 100% part of the world. How long does it take, or do you ever get free from the JWs, so that anyone getting involved with you would know you would never go back?
I just read an article in the local paper, similar to the one above. The doctors were no longer recommending blood transfusions, only palliative care. The doctors are being very realistic, and although we have to say the girl won her right to self determination (WT determination) of her medical treatment, she didn't win anything. If there was a significant hope that the blood would have continued to help, I believe that the courts would have decided to continue the treament . The Leukemia won.
concerned mama
Edited by - concerned mama on 3 July 2002 11:24:40
This poor family, this poor father, and most of all this poor girl.
Such a shame that her health is failing. The WT policy has destroyed this family. It has prevented this family from pulling together to help her get well, to allow her the best medical treatment with her whole family behind her, when her family is her most important support.
Does this judge's ruling set a precident? Do you think that the judge gave in based on her failing health?
the house was full yesterday!family,friends,ice cold molson canadian beer,and crown royal canadian whiskey.you need plenty of refreshments to celebrate canada`s birthday!
(lol)everyone had a good time.how was your canada day?
We had a major delay getting out to the lake when my 75 gallon aquarium leaked. You wouldn't believe how much water can siphon put of a tiny little air hose.....sigh.
Unfortunately, the drought is so severe here that all the Canada Day fireworks had to be cancelled due to the fire risk. Doesn't matter. We still love our country and celebrated anyway....just without anything more flammable than Mike's Hard Lemonade, beer and Natural gas for the BBQ..
